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The Best Pine Floor Prices
Southern Yellow Pine Direct has the absolute best pine flooring prices, bar none. When you compare apples to apples from what is said to what is real, you cannot fake weight and length with the only exception being in the NFL.
What is the farthest we have shipped knotty pine?
The answer is just under 4500 miles, is our best guess- See Royal Hawaiian Movers in the left corner! The point is that when you consider pricing, price per square foot is just like MSRP- it is not real price until you get all the cost and or discounts that come during the sales process.
Exotic Prefinished Hardwood Flooring
Reidsville North Carolina
Manufacturer not showroom, we can ship, or you can pick up from the location. Cost plus (broker) pricing direct to homeowners.
Brazilian Cherry 3/4 x 3 1/4 Clear Prefinished Natural t/g ends matched 7' bundles - $4.99 per square foot with full pallet or 920 square feet in bundles of 22.75 SF- call for smaller orders which include $120.00 pallet break fee
Brazilian Chestnut 3/4 x 5" Clear Prefinished Natural t/g ends matched 7' bundles - $5.29 per square foot with full pallet or 933 square feet in bundles of 23.33 SF call for smaller orders which include $120.00 pallet break fee
Tigerwood 3/4 x 3 1/4 Clear Prefinished Natural t/g ends matched 7' bundles - $4.99 per square foot with full pallet or 910 square feet in bundles of 22.75 SF call for smaller orders which include $120.00 pallet break fee
Tigerwood 3/4 x 5" Clear Prefinished Natural t/g ends matched 7' bundles - $5.19 per square foot with full pallet or 933 square feet in bundles of 33.33 SF call for smaller orders which include $120.00 pallet break fee
Honduras Heart Pine - aka Caribbean Heart Pine 50/50% version 3 Colors Fawn, Vintage and Rustic 920 SQ Per Pallet 23.00 per bundle- $3.59 with full pallet and pick up.
New Jersey, New Hampshire, South Carolina and New Orleans pick up options with discounts for doing so; heart pine, knotty pine, imports and hardwoods.
Southern Yellow Pine Direct is more than just what the name implies. We specialize in pine, however in the course of our business we have developed relationships with the top hardwood mills, and manufactures allowing us to broker these products directly to homeowners using a cost plus (wholesale brokerage) pricing.
Local Flooring from SYP Direct
Edison New Jersey & New Orleans offer pick and or in-state delivery for free with volume order.
Location: Kenilworth New Jersey $2.59 - $2.99 pickup pricing, call for shipping- all unfinished 1-6' 2' average: As of January 21, 2019, we have: Brazilian Cherry, Walnut, Teak and Oak. Also, Tigerwood, Golden Teak and Southern Chestnut. When it is gone, it is gone. Edison NJ logistics warehouse prefinished exotic flooring such as the Brazilian Cherry shown below.
Location: Reidsville, NC $3.59 SF Knotty Pine, Prefinished in 3 colors. 3/4 x 5 x 1-7' Tongue and Groove all four sides. UV Alum Oxide with warranty. Call for prefinished options directly from the commercial finishers warehouse which indicates 1st run i.e. has not been through distribution chain.
Location: SYP Direct AL Mill - $1.80 square foot 1 x 10 (3/4 x 9”) #2 Longleaf Southern Yellow Pine Unfinished Tongue and Groove with straight sides and ends. Ships nationwide w/ 100% coverage Guarantee. Pick up options. Min order 1050, full pallet.
Location: SYP Direct LA Mill - $1.85 square foot 1 x 8 x 14 #2 Southern Mature Loblolly Yellow Pine Unfinished Ship Lap, V Groove or Nickel Gap siding. Ships nationwide NO Pick ups
DIY finishing unfinished flooring?
The best advice we can give to keep it simple. Buy the floors below and a clear coat is all you need, anything else would be a crime. So If you are a DIY and want to know the best way to finish unfinished flooring, we have some advice.
"Put some lipstick on that pig" is a truly southern phrase we use to explain how the prefinished pine flooring market works. If you see a dark stain, assume a lower grade. You will see dark stained "heart pine" in box stores and online, but be forewarned it is not heart pine, not the way we measure it. If you are buying heart pine you are want to see the floor, right? They are putting lipstick on a pig!
The prime grade Caribbean Heart Pine needs no lipstick just a clear coat of your choice, Tung or Teak Oil either pure or tinted.
Location: Hudson, New Hampshire 3 1/4 Prime Grade Caribbean Heart Pine, 85% heartwood with very few pin knots. 2-12' average 7' more than twice industry average for unfinished Heart Pine, tongue and groove, ends matched with as close to architectural quality mill work that you can find anywhere. $3.75 per square foot 1150 minimum for that price.
SYP Direct is the homeowners advocate and the contractors secret. To find out about distribution partnerships contact us now, we are looking for like minded professionals. #buyrealwood
Green is one house, one floor; green is not a cover ever 5 -7 years.
With floor covers such as engineered and laminate you are really just leasing the floors, and like a car lease you will pay more on the backside than you ever expected! These floor covers are filling our landfills now and in the next 4-5 years the amount is expected to double from current levels of 300,000,000 lb. per year! All so they can generate repeat business. There is no greener product than solid wood flooring.
What if every home built from this day forward used 1” solid real wood from a local mill or trusted source? Do you believe that to be more harmful (aka less green) than our current model, which is built on shipping timber to China so they can cut it up, compress it and sell it back to us in slivers. Green would be one house, one floor! Exported lumber would stay gone and not come back as Rimports (Re-imported) flooring.
Why are hardwood floors so expensive?
Engineered floors are just covers, we sell floors
Yes, you were right when you said “this does not make sense” as you were shopping for floors at box stores. The whole idea is that fake is better than real. Engineered wood handles moisture better? No-way not from mother nature or your washing machine.
Real wood is too expensive! Wow- over what time period, since ours last forever and the other maybe 5 years. Over the life of house that gets stupid expensive compared to us. And if you order from SYP Direct, we will beat any apples to apples price- please check us on that!
Warranty is a marketing term not a real promise
Lifetime warranty, really? Come on man, that just doesn’t seem reality based. Have you ever seen the terminology or terms of these documents? Absolutely worthless in the real world. Our warranty is that one day your floors will be the last thing of value left of the structure they are going into-and in most cases they will be salvaged and sold again.
“Its been a long time since I installed a real hardwood”; a long-time installer in SC on phone call recently. Problem is we are not shocked any longer because we hear things far worse all the time. The one's that admit is are great, the ones that try to talk you out it are at issue. Time is Money! Time is money and real wood takes time, a great deal more time. Acclimation, sand, stain and repeat takes longer than peeling of the back of a sticker.
About SYP Direct Floors
Our mill has been in production for 2 generations; family owned means small enough to care, but large enough have top of line equipment along with the ability to handle any size order. We do not have inventory - we mill your square footage to ensure you get the heart content we promise. Your floor is created from small individual owned, mature North Alabama Longleaf pine timber, as it has been for two generations.
One House One Floor
One house one floor is the philosophy of management and our successful distributors, the ones that do not sell anything but real solid wood, does not have to be only SYP Directs floors- just real. We never want repeat business from any client until they move or add – on. As you can guess we do not get many invites to events like Surfaces- the annual Las Vegas conference touting new ways to steal your money.
Heather Howard, Co-Founder
Logistics & Residential Sales
Heather Howard Co-founder SYP Direct-Owner Bayou Rustics Designs
Mill Run Heart Pine is our cheapest grade
Kiln dried, T&G, box ends with relief grooves on back for stability. Rustic aka Mill Run Heart Pine is 1 x 8 x 12 (3/4” x 6 7/8” x 12’) $2.50 -$2.25 sq. ft depending on volume below or above pallet size 1200 square feet. Not to be confused with Rustic Caribbean Heart Pine.
Cheapest Heart Pine yes, but the 50-80% heart content visible i.e on the face, is exactly like a #1 Heart Pine board. The Mill run grade is a collection of "almost" boards that have any number of tiny defects preventing them for being a true Heart Pine board. Cheapest floor is tricky thing to Google simply because the market now considers engineered and laminate as actual substitutes as real wood. They sell single use covers and we sell one time purchase floors.
Fill this with wood filler or saw dust + glue + sand to create one of the best looking knots you will ever see. Consider this an opportunity or cut it out, either way the Mill Run Heart Pines price make the time worth effort and you still have plenty of gorgeous character throughout your floor.
Knot on the edge of board will always get defected into tavern grade, not even #2 will have any of these. However, the knot is smooth and stable, fill those two pin knots and finish your floor.
Mill Run is scarce and therefore impossible to find, as a homeowner-unless you call SYP Direct.
Shipping & Waste Factor
We build crate walls and flip the top row over to protect your flooring during shipping. The tongues, grooves and all that good stuff stays nice and clean and for $50-75$ per pallet our customers get 100% coverage guarantee. Pallets will be banded & stapled. The walls are designed to protect from forklifts. Replacing boards that were damaged due to carrier mishandling is not a problem…the issue is that shipping a few replacement boards will have outrageous shipping fees. Since you are laying the floor yourself, you have skills :) Wanted to share what one of our customers used the crate walls for that came with her order.
When shippers act right, with 10% waste you will have plenty of extra boards. Our customers have made shelves, mantels, frames, etc. ...even chicken coops! The barn door below is a link to the Mercantile Antique Malls' Facebook page.
If shipping is not kind...& things do happen out there on the road...if your walls arrive destroyed - imagine what would have happened to the T&G. It is really the best insurance to make sure your floor arrives in the best condition possible.
Jason Howard Southern Yellow Pine Direct Co-founder started SYP Direct selling only Knotty Pine. Today the company has representatives and or distribution in over a dozen states and counting. "One House, One Floor is the philosophy at SYP Direct, no repeat business unless you add on or move.
Southern Yellow Pine Flooring Grades
We believe that pine should be sold like wine where it is all about age, species and location. Our Southern Yellow Pine floors all come from Northern Alabama Longleaf Pine, a species within the SYP term. Age and species create stability, density, color and character. Fast growing pine makes great building materials but it should not be compared to Longleaf Pine. Even though both are species inside Southern Yellow Pine and grow in the same states, for the most part, they are far from equals.
Pine grades are not pine flooring grades
Grades are subjective when it comes to knotty pine, which is not actually a flooring grade, but rather a dimensional lumber term indicating seconds. Not the case with a true flooring mill. At SYP Direct we buy timber to produce solid wood floors, walls and ceilings not 2 x 4's. Our #2 boards are not seconds or defects; they simply do not have enough heartwood to be called heart pine.
Random widths versus repeating patterns
pricing random width knotty pine
The following is an explanation given to a customer along with a request for pricing 2200 square feet of Knotty Pine and 1000 square feet of Caribbean Heart Pine. Many times customers do not realize the difference in prices between random and repeating widths.
I wanted to get you some rough numbers to use- we want to be resource during the finish install. Along those lines, in my opinion random is much easier to install and in small rooms repeating pattern floors are dominated by the larger boards, the narrow ones are lost- repeating works best with two widths such as 5" and 7".
How to price repeating pattern flooring?
First of all, you need to know how many square feet you are ordering. So the formula we use to get close to final board number is to add all the face widths together then divide total square footage by that number to get the approximate number of boards. In a three width repeating 3 1/4, 5 1/8 and 6 7/8 heart pine it would be 15.125, so with 2000 square foot order you get 132.23 boards. (2000/15.125)
So armed with an approximate number of boards we find out the length of each board, in our case this very easy as we run 8', 10' or 12' and do not usually mix the lengths unless by request, you can request all 12' for example. This is when the lengths and face widths come into play..how much coverage per board is what we need.
3.13 sf on a 1 x 4 x 12' at 133 boards is 416 sf
5.125 sf on a 1 x 6 x 12' at 133 boards is 698 sf
7.13 sf on a 1 x 8 x 12' at 133 boards is 949 sf
So now you can simply multiply the square footage times price for each width and divide by the number of square feet.
Jason Howard "There is never a reason to buy engineered wood unless you are an apartment or hospital." Need help with a local contractor? Contact ASAP, we can help.
SYP Direct: Hardwood flooring buyers source for solid wood, real talk and low prices
Everyone has seen those auto commercials offering everyone $10,000 of MSRP for some vehicle, right? First of all, that is not a real number and second they usually just have a few if not just one in many cases, but I digress. The real problem is that MSRP is not a real number because it is inflated by things that usually do nothing and in some cases do not really exist. For example window etching and undercoating, both commonly used to increase prices but do nothing for value. Welcome to the residential hardwod flooring business, the place you are told fake re imported covers are better than real wood floors. We are glad you found us, we can help.
Southern Yellow Pine Direct customers are homeowners, contractors, builders, installation professionals, interior designers, restoration professionals, historic restoration projects, architects, churches, restaurants, bars, retail shops, an antique mall, a bed and breakfast, tiny house builders, cabin builders, lodge builders, (a) youth ballet, (an) executive from major flooring retailer (very proud), (a)Broadway production, wedding chapel (s), a car dealership and countless house flippers.
The common denominator of all our customers is the that they understand value. Many times they have experienced engineered or laminate and want something real. Our customers do not believe the words laminate and hardwood should never be used together, and the only hardwood floor is one using real wood. We realize this is confusing and to be honest the industry does not want you to buy real wood- they prefer repeat business whereas we believe in one house one floor!
If you frequent our blog the phrase 'Southern Yellow Pine is not a species' will be familiar. Our company was founded on this misconception, Southern yellow pine (often abbreviated SYP) doesn't refer to any one species of tree, but rather a group of species which are classified as yellow pine and are native to the Southern United States. So Southern Yellow Pine is a geographic description differentiating yellow from white, red or other.
One House, One Floor is about creating value not repeat business
Time is certainly money in the floor covering business. A business that is dominated by three major players who buy our trees ship them to Asia and then re import them as engineered (single use) flooring. It is a very convoluted and sickening market when you step back and realize how much 'wealth' has been taken from the homeowner and how much it has cost those buying a house they thought had solid hardwood flooring only to find out it was engineered hardwood.
Pricing Southern Yellow Pine
The PDF attached has prices and specifications of our #2 Knotty Pine, #1 Alabama Heart Pine and our Natural aka Mill Run Heart Pine which is the only one our new pine grades where availability is limited to 1 x 8 x 12 only. It is essentially transcripts from emails sent by SYP Direct to a customer explaining our grades, pricing and shipping process. It also gives you a good idea the type of customer service, complete transparency and no stone un-turned.
#1 Heart Pine 50-80% Heart Content.These floors have the colors and sap bleed you expect from Heart Pine. These get some much better with age and do not require anything more than to be finished with clear poly, tongue oil (my favorite), or a light tint such as Wheat or Honey Oak.
#2 Grade #2 Knotty (Alabama Longleaf) Pine has 0-40% heart content per board. Kiln dried, T&G, box ends with relief grooves on the back for stability. 0-40% is # 2 or better grade with knots and color variations. These boards will have a variety of grain type, knots and colors. Some large knots and some tiny, some with sap bleed others just a pin prick. This is very unique floor. It can be stained dark or tinted lightly to give aged appearance.
J Howard, Co-founder of Southern Yellow Pine Direct. "One House, One Floor. "